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F D Sturdy

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Director asking wrong couple to "hurry up" ( 10:50:31 WedNov 27 2002 )

:Is it correct for a Director to a) request the "wrong person" to hurry up, then continue to send messages via other people to tell the "wrong person" to hurry up ? My new to the club partner got a bit cross, informed the Director it was not us, then a few words took place. Now, this morning, my partner has received rather a nasty letter from Sec of Bridge Club, which I think is totally out of order. I would appreciate a word from you, and thank you in anticipation. PS I think the Director may not be a totally qualified person, but I am not sure on this one. The word "Volunteer" appears in the letter.

  
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Re: Director asking wrong couple to "hurry up" ( 14:53:07 WedNov 27 2002 )

I imagine I would get a different version of events from the Director. Without knowing exactly what happened, or what your partner said and how he/she said it, I can't say for sure if the Director was out of line, but your partner should not "get a bit cross", but simply make an effort to get caught up.

At the clubs I direct, I learn very quickly who the slow players are. They are the same pairs who are continually late week after week.
A simple "Please try to get caught up" usually works, without ruffling any feathers, though both pairs will usually tell me "It's not our fault".

Most lateness is not caused by slow bidding or play, but by lengthy post-mortems between hands, and pairs who have to study the traveling scoreslips as if there was going to be a quiz later.



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bluejak

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Re: Director asking wrong couple to "hurry up" ( 20:09:23 WedNov 27 2002 )

Another way people love slowing a game down is by writing the contract on their personal score-sheet before the lead: this is very rude, with three people sitting waiting! :rolleyes:

If you get behind then you should speed up in an attempt to catch up. Now that applies whether it was your fault or not. So if your partner was annoyed just because he felt your opponents were at fault, and he did not see why he should try to catch up, then he was out of line. :sad:

Of course, we do not know in detail what happened. If you were following a slow pair, and continually being delayed, then the Director should be chivvying them and not you.

None of this condones rudeness to the Director. If your partner's heated words included rudeness then even if the Director was wrong your partner was also wrong.

In a club it is important that players catch up when they get behind. So long as your partner realises that applies to him even if he was not the cause of getting behind, and so long as he was not rude to the Director in any way, then you probably have a legitimate grievance.

One other point: I do not like the idea of a Director chivvying via a third party: that was wrong.

I hope some of this helps. If you like to give further details of the incident, I am sure Jim, Ed or I can offer further advice. :smile:




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James Vickers

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Re: Director asking wrong couple to "hurry up" ( 16:02:04 ThuNov 28 2002 )

Quote: bluejak at 20:09:23 Wed Nov 27 2002

Another way people love slowing a game down is by writing the contract on their personal score-sheet before the lead: this is very rude, with three people sitting waiting!

It is also a good way of ensuring your opening leads are in tempo. If you lead a card after the auction: 1NT - 3NT the instant the final pass hits the table, both your partner and declarer can deduce you had an obvious lead (probably a good 5+ card suit rather than a choice between two mediocre 4-carders). If you always think (or make a pretence of thinking) for a few seconds before making your lead you don't slow the game down noticeably, and you do reduce the transmission of unauthorized information. You might as well fill in your score card during this time.

James

*Edited to correct quote code.*


[Edited By bridgeaddict at 00:07:37 Fri Nov 29 2002]

  
James Vickers

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Re: Director asking wrong couple to "hurry up" ( 17:48:10 ThuNov 28 2002 )

Sorry, only the first paragraph of the previous message was a quote from David, the rest was supposed to be my reply!

James

  
bluejak

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Re: Director asking wrong couple to "hurry up" ( 05:49:15 SunDec 1 2002 )

This is ok for you, James, but it is not what happens with 99% of players.

For the normal person on lead, she puts her cards face down on the table, finds her pen in her bag, finds her spectacles in her bag, searches for her score-card [which is under the bag :smile:], checks the board number [twice], writes the contract down, puts her pen away in her bag, puts her spectacles away in her bag, hangs her bag on the back of the chair, puts her score-card face-down on the table, picks her hand up, says "Is it my lead?", and when told yes ......

....... she then takes five minutes wondering which of her four-card suits to lead.

No, James, for the average person, it is just not the correct method. :sad:




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F D Sturdy

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Re: Director asking wrong couple to "hurry up" ( 14:53:08 TueDec 3 2002 )

Thank you all for your replies. Trouble was it was the table before us causing the delay. Yes words were said after the Director was told we were "still waiting for a board" - she said "it will be the first time then" and my partner got cross. And no, Directors should not send messages via other people! My friend will not go to that evening again - after the nasty letter from Sec of Club. I dont blame her.

  

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