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Ray Crowe

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mistaken bid ( 03:52:07 MonJun 23 2003 )

Country: New Zealand

Board 4----Dealer West-----all VUL

The hands:

North: S A742 H T8642 D JT C 72
East : S void H Q9 D 954 C AKQT9853
South: S KQJT653 H AK7 D K76 C void
West: S 98 H J53 D AQ832 C J64


The Bidding:

West North East South
p p 2D* 4S
5D P 6C 6S
all pass

E/W's agreed system was opening weak 2s (in D, H & S)

After East opened 2D, South inquired and was told by West that it was "weak, 6 - 10 pts".
The rest of the bidding went as above. Result N/S - 200.
(this was an intermediate grade tournament, mixed quality)

As director, I was called at the end of play by South who was not happy with East bidding 6C.
( I asked East why she opened 2D. She replied that she had forgotten their agreement and opened a "multi 2D", which has, as one of it's options, an 8 playing tricks in any suit).

I ruled result stands.
I considered there was no U/I to be gained by East from West's bid of 5D, as it was basically a "no brainer". West was still bidding the agreed system.
West could have bid on a very weak hand with only a 2 card support , or he could have had some values. East still had no idea.
Irrespective of this, from East's point of view 6C is always right. He has a 5 trick loosing hand, and if West has no points, a sacrifice is safe against a vul. slam. If West has some values, then -2 is still safe against a probable vul. N/S game in spades.
Where is there an infraction?

This went to an appeal.
The A/C decided there was damage and awarded a score of
5S = 5 for NS, and EW -650.











  
bluejak

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Re: mistaken bid ( 11:39:44 MonJun 23 2003 )

It is only because of the UI that East knows what West has. West's 5 bid does not show "only a 2 card support" from the bidding: it looks as though West has got six or seven card suit that West deemed unsuitable for a pre-empt.

How does East know his 2 opening was the Multi? From partner's explanation, of course. So he must make every effort not to take any advantage from the UI available to him, and this he has failed to do.

You ask where the infraction is. East has chosen amongst LAs one suggested by the UI: pass over 5 is certainly an LA. I am quite sure that if West had said that East's 2 was Multi that quite a few Easts would now pass.





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