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Peter Reply
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Scoring wrong traveller ( 15:24:35 MonFeb 10 2003 ) | |
Country: Hong Kong
Would appreciate an early reply to this question. At one table they had just played board No.3. North took out the traveller to enter the score but unfortunately took out the traveller for board 4 that had not yet been played. North looked at the results on the board before discovering the mistake. The board obviously could not be played but what is the penalty? (Duplicate Pairs Club Bridge)
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bluejak 427 posts Forum Host Reply
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Re: Scoring wrong traveller ( 17:04:45 MonFeb 10 2003 ) | |
For board four North-South get average minus, East-West get average-plus [A-/A+].
While this is not a penalty it is sufficiently annoying to North-South that they will be more careful in future.
I assume that your computer can score A-/A+ [or your scorer if you do it by hand]. If you need to put it in manually it normally comes to 40% of a top for North-South, 60% for East-West.
Technically [and good software will do this] A+ actually means 60% or their session score, whichever is greater, similarly A- actually means 40% or their session score, whichever is less.
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Robert Johnson Reply
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Re: Scoring wrong traveller ( 02:52:16 MonMar 24 2003 ) | |
Country: USA
David, there is an even more irritating variation of this problem. Occasionally, boards arrive at a new table with the travelers switched and the error is not discovered before a board has been played.....
Now there is a problem. Is the current North to be charged an A- for not verifying that each board arrived with the correct traveler? Is the table where the switch occured given a penalty for creating the problem? If so, is the penalty applied to one of the boards played, or is it a penalty deducted from the offending N/S total score.
Regards, Bob
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Ed 172 posts Forum Host Reply
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Re: Scoring wrong traveller ( 08:14:59 MonMar 24 2003 ) | |
If North or South pulls out a traveller and looks at it, and it is for a board not yet played, then L12A2 comes into play, and NS get Avg- (and EW Avg+, L88).
If the travellers were placed in the wrong boards by N/S at another table, then a Procedural Penalty might be assessed against that pair, because their error caused a score adjustment at another table (L90B7). The penalty (normally 1/10 of a board, I think) would be deducted from their overall score.
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bluejak 427 posts Forum Host Reply
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Re: Scoring wrong traveller ( 12:02:56 MonMar 24 2003 ) | |
If the travellers were put in the wrong boards by the North player at an earlier table, I would issue a Procedural Penalty of 10% of a top always. This is against my normal policy in clubs which is never to give more than a warning except for repeat offences, but this is so unforgiveable. There is never any reason to have two travellers out of the board at the same time. If North-South can convince me that East-West took the travellers out then I issue a Procedural Penalty to them as well. North-South do not escape since the travellers are their responsibility.
But I do not expect the players receiving the boards to know the travellers are wrong, so they got A+/A+ on any unplayable board.
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