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Munna Reply |
In a tournament I played a board as south where I get the following hand:
S--A,j,10,X H--K,9,X,X D--A,x C--A,x,x N E S W - - 1c p 1H 2D X! p 3D! p 4H p 4N! p 5C(!) X 5H p 6H p p p 1. X indicates strong hand. 2.3D " short in diamond. 3.4N Key card asking. 4.5C 0/3 key card. My partner take time when bidding 5H.So opponent call the director for taking more time which they mentioned as pause. What would be decision from Director? N.B:My 6H bid was very easy and simple from my point of view.caz I thought my partner guesses I might have 0 key card. But my view was partner will not ask for mising 4 Aces. So after having 3 Aces I can easily bid the hand. early thx for ur answer. |
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WVLaker Reply |
Don't you have 4 keycards now that hearts are trumps?
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munna  2 posts bridgetalk member  Reply |
I posted the this hand before where the A/h and k/s were mis placed.
In a tournament I played a board as south where I get the following hand: S--K,j,10,X H--A,9,X,X D--A,x C--A,x,x N E S W - - 1c p 1H 2D X! p 3D! p 4H p 4N! p 5C(!) X 5H p 6H p p p 1. X indicates strong hand. 2.3D " short in diamond. 3.4N Key card asking. 4.5C 0/3 key card. My partner take time when bidding 5H.So opponent call the director for taking more time which they mentioned as pause. What would be decision from Director? N.B:My 6H bid was very easy and simple from my point of view.caz I thought my partner guesses I might have 0 key card. But my view was partner will not ask for mising 4 Aces. So after having 3 Aces I can easily bid the hand. early thx for ur answer |
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bridgeaddict Unavailable 510 posts   Reply |
Whilst I understand your desire for an early answer to your question, it really does not help to post the same problem again and again, which is why your latest post was moved and the previous one appended to your original one.
This is the holiday season which is no doubt why there has been a delay in answering your question. However I would say this (and David will correct me if I am wrong), when your partner initiates a Blackwood sequence, he is the "captain of the hand" and you should "normally" respect him if he signs off below slam, though of course there might be times when you consider otherwise (such as when holding a void). In this case however, there appears to have been a clear hesitation by him and you must therefore make sure that you don't take advantage of it.
In this case, a "logical alternative" would certainly be "Pass" and although you might have considered bidding on after your partner bid "in tempo", you cannot really do so after the hesitation.
You already told him that in your Blackwood response! I'm afraid your reasoning for bidding on was not very convincing and it certainly showed a lack of respect for partner's bridge ability! |
bluejak  427 posts Forum Host Reply |
I think the reposting was acceptable because there was an error in the original posting, though it would have helped if the reposting had been to the same thread. Anyway, that is history now.
This type of problem is not very easy. There are two perfectly clear arguments. [1] Partner knows I have three aces, since partner would not be making a slam try if he did not know that. Therefore, it being clear from his hesitation that he has one of the missing key-cards otherwise he would not be thinking about it, to bid a slam now is relying on the hesitation. This cannot be allowed, so it is automatic to rule it back to 5  .[2] Partner may not know whether I have three or zero aces. While his hesitation shows this, so does the bidding. 5 asks me to go on with three aces, and pass with none. So it is permissible to bid 6 on the example hand, and we should allow 6.To be honest, I can see both arguments. Let see if we can find some more clues. In case [2] we are assuming that partner has something like  AQx KQxx Kxxx Kxand he is worrying that I might have KJxx JTxx QJx QJwhich is ludicrous! Check the earlier bidding: you cannot be that weak!  No, Partner knows you must have an ace, case [2] makes no sense, and we can not allow the 6 bid.So I would rule it back to 5 +1.
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AlanW Reply |
While I see the logic of this approach, it conflicts with a simple agreement I have with some of my partners to the effect that responder always bids on over a 5-level sign-off if he has the higher number of possible key-cards. This means that the hand bidding RKCB can always bid on on the assumption that responder has the lower number of key cards, knowing that he won't miss anything if this isn't the case. (He can still decide responder cannot possibly have the lower number if he wants to and avoid a round of bidding, but he doesn't need to since he knows partner will bid again.) Presumably I can protect against the ruling proposed above by stating this agreement explicitly on the convention card, but I thought this was the normal way of playing RKCB anyway. |
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bluejak 427 posts Forum Host Reply |
To play that partner always goes on with the greater number of keycards is certainly playable. It makes Blackwood unusable with no aces, which on certain sequences will cause a lot of pain, since Blackwood is perfect with hands with all the second-round controls, but that's your affair.
But you must put it on your CC, and if playing in a jurisduiction whihc employs alerting above 3NT, you must alert it. It is definitely not standard!
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