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responder's 1nt over competetion. ( 00:48:06 FriNov 8 2002 )

if bidding goes 1c, 1spade lho, and 1nt by responder and the responder DOES NOT PROMISE a spade stopper is that alertable?

my director says it is and when it occurred at another club without an alert that director said it was not alertable

thanks :smile:

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Re: responder's 1nt over competetion. ( 01:00:03 FriNov 8 2002 )

no one out there who can help?

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Re: responder's 1nt over competetion. ( 21:40:58 FriNov 8 2002 )

Sorry I wasn't around last night, but I was playing bridge. :biggrin:

You don't say where you are, and that could affect the answer, as Alert regs vary geographically. In the ACBL, I don't believe this 1NT response is alertable. If you are in some other jurisdiction, let us know where and we'll try to find an answer for you.

You might ask the TD to show you the part of the Alert Regulation that says this call is alertable. :smile:

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Re: responder's 1nt over competetion. ( 22:46:51 FriNov 8 2002 )

I believe this call should be alerted in the "admittedly fuzzy" ACBL.
To bid 1NT without a stopper in the opponents suit is certainly "highly unusual and unexpected". Even if not within the letter of the law, alerting is certainly within the spirit of the alert procedure. You know something about the meaning of your partner's call that the opponents most likely do not - and they are entitled to know - so it is up to you to inform them.

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Re: responder's 1nt over competetion. ( 00:51:05 SatNov 9 2002 )

Quote: JimO at 22:46:51 Fri Nov 8 2002

I believe this call should be alerted in the "admittedly fuzzy" ACBL.
To bid 1NT without a stopper in the opponents suit is certainly "highly unusual and unexpected".

Just as a matter of interest Jim, what if responder held
Jxx or maybe Txxx or Qx of S. Not a stopper but.....

I don't know whether these would need to be alerted here in Australia.

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Re: responder's 1nt over competetion. ( 14:46:23 MonNov 11 2002 )

It is helpful if people asking question say where they are. Alerting differs in different places. :rolleyes:

This case is interesting insofar as I would not be completely sure whether it is alertable in England either. :sad:

If the player will really respond 1NT with

after 1

over 1

then it is probably unusual enough to be alerted in England. My guess is that despite the plethora of alerting regulations that this treatment is unusual enough to need an alert nearly everywhere. :smile:

Small aside: there are some of us, notably Jim, Ed and I, who check here regularly and will always answer to the best of our ability. But it will sometimes take a few days for us to look so sometimes answers will not be immediate - sorry. :sheep:

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