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rco - openings ( 09:20:44 SatSep 28 2002 )

in addition to multi 2 diamonds we open 2 hearts/2 spades/2nt to indicate weak 2-suited hands: 2 hearts at least two five cards same rank/2 spades at least two five cards same colour/2 nt at least two five cards odd

we were told by friends that this is illegal.
Is that correct and if so, why?

JimO

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Re: rco - openings ( 14:19:02 SatSep 28 2002 )

You don't say where you are. Different organizations have different regulations on conventions. But most National Bridge Organizations place some restrictions on artificial preempts.
Some will allow a convention at a higher level, but disallow it at lower levels - e.g., in the ACBL, there is a General Chart for almost all games, a Mid-Chart for National Events, and the top flight/bracket(s) at many Sectional or Regional Events, and a Super-Chart usually only for the top National KO team events.

Multi 2D is only allowed in Mid-Chart events in the ACBL (and, I believe, Level 3 events in the UK.)

Opening 2H,2S and 2NT as crash is illegal at any level in the ACBL. From the Super-Chart:
Allowed #1: Artificial Weak Bids at the 2 or 3 level must possess a) a known suit, or b) one of no more than two possible suits not to include the suit bid).
(If I read the Orange Book correctly, it is illegal in the UK as well. Even at level 4, 1 suit must be specified.)

You should be able to check with your NBO to find out the legality of any convention.

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Re: rco - openings ( 14:54:41 SatSep 28 2002 )

thank you very much, jim
i am playing in the bridgeclub of msn zone bridge.
This is where my friends got penalized for using the rco-openings

bluejak

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Re: rco - openings ( 09:38:20 MonSep 30 2002 )

Yes, CRO openings [which is our name for CRASH] are illegal in EBU events.

I was not aware, however, of system restrictions at all on the internet. I shall make enquiries and return!

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bergenbalk

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Re: rco - openings ( 11:44:08 MonSep 30 2002 )

thank you very much
we play in msn. zone bridge in the bridgeclub

bluejak

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Re: rco - openings ( 19:13:08 MonOct 7 2002 )

It has taken some effort but I have managed to find out the information! :smile:

In the MSN Bridgeclub on the Zone there are some restrictiions on allowed systems. They are jolly difficult to find because instead of having a helpful heading like "Permitted conventions" or something you have to look at the Alert Chart and they are at the end! :sad:

Brown Sticker conventions are not permitted. It goes on to describe Brown Sticker conventions, so for details I should take a look for yourself, but anyway that means RCO openings are not allowed in the Bridgeclub. :sad:

The website is at

http://www.msnbridgeclub.com/default.htm

and you should look for the alerting rules.

If you play in the Zone generally, NOT in the Bridgeclub, then there are no restrictions on what you may play.

I hope this helps!!!!!

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